Fedora Test Day – Text-mode install simplification

That’s right … another round of Test Days has begun!  We’ve got a few testing events lined up in the coming weeks, but still looking for volunteers to help host or suggest a future Test Day.

If you are developing a Fedora 11 feature, and would like to get additional scrutiny+testing … don’t hesitate to let me know. The F11 Test day schedule is available on the wiki.

For those not monitoring fedora-test-list, I invite you to come help review and test the proposed text-mode installation simplification changes for Fedora 11.  What you are accustomed to for text-mode installations will be changing in Fedora 11 … come help define how it should behave and help test the proposed changes.  Don’t forget to bring your favorite text-mode use case!

See you this Thursday, January 29 in #fedora-qa.

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8 responses to “Fedora Test Day – Text-mode install simplification

  1. > “Don’t forget to bring your favorite text-mode use case!”

    That one is easy 🙂

    I need to specify a custom partitionning layout when using text-mode install.

    From the screenshot in this article, it looks like it won’t be possible anymore. This means I don’t even have to participate to the Test Day to find an issue with this test case. Great ! 🙂

    • > I need to specify a custom partitionning layout when using text-mode install.

      I’m a fan of text-mode installs … just been doing them for so long I guess. I do a lot of remote installs on headless (no vga) systems.

      I’m interested to learn more about the reasons you use text-mode?

      > From the screenshot in this article, it looks like it
      > won’t be possible anymore.

      What’s not shown after the above screenshot, is that you can continue with a text-mode installation. A few screens later, you are currently offered 3 partitioning choices.

      > This means I don’t even have to participate to the
      > Test Day to find an issue with this test case. Great ! 🙂

      Please do join! The code has not yet been committed anaconda. There’s no better time to get your feedback in on the proposed text-mode changes.

  2. (a) the text installer doesn’t currently handle some features like LVM ;
    (b) a text-mode install is necessary in some situations (low bandwidth,
    high latency from admin to server for instance) ;
    (c) some distributions handle LVM in their text-mode installer ;
    (d) other distributions let the user partition by hand (fdisk, LVM) before
    starting the installer itself.

    Doing (d) is not possible (it breaks at least kickstart generation during
    install). While I understand that maintaining two separate installers for
    text and graphical modes is an unwelcome burden, simplifying even further
    the text installer will hurt high latency folks.

    However, if we assume that the text-mode installer is only used by
    experienced users, mostly on servers, we could maintain a reasonable list
    of features that are to be kept for graphical mode only, and a list of
    must-have features for the text-mode. Text-mode use cases, indeed…

    • Re: use cases

      Thanks for the feedback. Outlining a set of use cases and/or a target audience for text-mode installations sounds like a “good thing”. Don’t hesitate to help get the ball rolling by adding your thoughts to the wiki.

      > Doing (d) is not possible (it breaks at least kickstart generation during
      install)

      One hidden feature of text-mode installs is that after the “Welcome” screen, you can press: -z to enter a shell. From the shell you can perform debugging, diagnostics, or manual disk setup by hand.

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